Kurotaki     黑瀧板蕎麥專門店  

AddressShop 413-415, Podium 4, World Trade Center, 280 Gloucester Road, Causeway Bay
銅鑼灣告士打道280號世貿中心413-415號鋪
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Price Range$101-$150
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    I was with Mjqueen7e who was just recovering from food poisoning and had not eaten for two days so it was a delicate choice to choose what to eat.

    Usually the locals will eat congee, but congee is not as healthy as it seems because it contains a lot more oils than you think.
    It certainly does not work for me because it makes me more sick, so usually I go for breads or noodles!
    Again, Chinese noodles contains a film of oil on top of the broth.

    Finally, came here for soba noodles.

    I chose the Chilled Shiretoko Zarusoba with sesame and black garlic oil sauce for the THIRD TIME because this was my third time dining here.
    As for my foodie friend, I recommended the plain soba which is just soba in soup. No meat, No oil and it was hot too!

    ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
    Chilled Shiretoko Zarusoba with sesame and black garlic oil sauce:
    Compared to my previous visit, there was a perfect balance of black garlic and sesame sauce.
     
    On my second visit, there was too much sesame sauce and not enough black garlic sauce.
    See photos on second visit:
    http://www.openrice.com/restaurant/commentdetail.htm?commentid=2282808
    If you see the photos on my first visit, there was practically no sauce at all!
    photos on first visit:
    http://www.openrice.com/restaurant/commentdetail.htm?commentid=2241213
    Anyway, with the appropriate amount of sauce, the noodles were really refreshing balanced by the lovely black garlic aroma.
     
    I loved the crunch from the buckwheat seeds and I wish there were more of them.
    ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
    Plain soba:
     
    Luckily the soup was quite salty, because after having had food poisoning everything tastes tasteless and there is a craving for salty foods to replace the lost salts and fluids.
    As I experienced food poisoning recently I was downing MSG laden soups when I was sick which is something I do not usually do.
    ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
    I would just like to Thank my Mjqueen7e who had food poisoning for treating me to soba and still dining out with me while she was sick.
    ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
    I do not normally go back to restaurants twice unless there are new dishes or the items are really good.
    So I suppose the soba here is good!
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    Price: $17X
    Service: ok
    Service charge: 10%
    Yummy factor: Delicious
    Glass of water provided: Tea was provided
    English Menu: Yes
    Air Conditioning: Yes
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    I succumb to Japanese buckwheat soba noodles without putting up any resistance. Call it my weakness!! There are many types of noodles available in Japan – many of them are not known outside of Japan as they are really restricted as regional dishes. Wish I could try out all of them one day as well. I remember having some really gorgeous rice noodles in Japan that are served with Medicinal soup bases, or really great Soba noodles in Fukui in Japan. Kurotaki in Hong Kong is the only current Soba shop which grinds the buckwheats and extrude their own soba noodles from in-house, what exclusivity! My last visit to here was only ok but in need of more attention Kurotaki (I), but since it was during their new openings I once again emphasize that I will always give any place the benefit of the doubt, just because I know kitchens always take time to synchronize to their full potential properly and this will take months to get on top of their game. This time around, I was much more impressed in the taste at their soba and hope I could do them justice in the end anyway. *Note: This shop also belongs to the Pokka Group HK, which also runs the Tonkichi which I had just reviewed prior to this. tongue

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    更科 Sarashina, 抹茶 Maccha, 田舎 Inaka Sobas Trio – $88
    Made in house. The noodles were definitely more tastier than before, so was the dipping broth. The al dente texture was spot-on during this occasion. So addictive. Just wished it had a better fresh grated wasabi. ~ 8.5/10

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    Soba Soup 湯桶のそば湯 -
    The Soba Yu soup was better also this time, filled with boiled soba taste and fresh yuzu refreshing taste. The original dipping broth was a bit stingy on proportions though.

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    I love Soba noodles so much. 之前已經是寫過了, 但後來是有進步的。 最少這晚點到的還不錯 smile
     
    Spending per head: Approximately HKD97

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    Kurotaki specialises in Soba noodles and they serve four different types.

    On the menu they have an introductory for each type of noodle which is quite informative.

    Inaka soba noodle – countryside soba that is springy with soft tender texture
    Etanbetsu soba - thin and sticky, made from centermost part fo buckwheat.
    Sarashina sesame soba - made with premium buckwheat flour.
    Shiretoko Zarusoba thin soba noodle served cold on bamboo basket made with centermost of part of buckwheat seeds together with kelps and seaweed.

    It was a nice place to dine with fine decor.
     
     
    On the table were the usual Japanese condiments: soy sauce and spice powder.
     
     
    Apart from soba they had lots of choices and even soup soba.
     
     

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    Ordered the Chilled Shiretoko Zarusoba with sesame and black garlic oil sauce, Chilled sarashina sesame soba with natto.
     
    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★

    Chilled Shiretoko Zarusoba with sesame and black garlic oil sauce
     
    I had to try this because I wanted to try the soba made with seaweed and kelp.
    The sauce was interesting and tasted of sesame and black pepper. The menu does not say it has pepper on the English but the Chinese has.
     
    The combination of sesame and ground black pepper was quite good because the spicyness of the pepper balances out the creaminess of the sesame sauce.
    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★

    Chilled sarashina sesame soba with natto
     
    I just had to get these noodles as well because all my favourite elements were there: natto beans, egg, okra, kelp, mountain yam and grated white radish.
     
    These noodles came with a separate wasabi vinaigrette sauce and it tasted really refreshing that I poured all of it.
    The noodles also had these delicious tiny crispy buckwheat seeds that looked like ultra tiny dried chick peas.

    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
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    Price: $19X
    Service: OK
    Service charge: 10%
    Yummy factor: ok
    Napkins provided: yes
    Glass of water provided: yes
    English Menu: Yes
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    When I first saw pictures of their soba noodles I added it to my to eat list imediately.

    Kurotaki specialises in Soba noodles and they serve four different types.

    On the menu they have an introductory for each type of noodle which is quite informative for those who do not know.
    Just to cut it short the four types of noodles are:
    Inaka soba noodle – countryside soba that is springy with soft tender texture
    Etanbetsu soba - thin and sticky, made from centermost part fo buckwheat.
    Sarashina sesame soba - made with premium buckwheat flour.
    Shiretoko Zarusoba thin soba noodle served cold on bamboo basket made with centermost of part of buckwheat seeds together with kelps and seaweed.
     
     
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    Ordered Chilled Shiretoko Zarusoba with sesame and black garlic oil sauce, Chilled sarashina sesame soba with natto and Assorted skewers.
    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
     
    Chilled Shiretoko Zarusoba with sesame and black garlic oil sauce
    I had to try this because I wanted to try the soba made with seaweed and kelp.
    The sauce was interesting and tasted of sesame and black pepper. The menu does not say it has pepper on the English but the Chinese has.
    The combination of sesame and ground black pepper was quite good because the spicyness of the pepper balances out the creaminess of the sesame sauce.
     
    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
     
    Chilled sarashina sesame soba with natto
    I just had to get these noodles as well because all my favourite elements were there: natto beans, egg, okra, kelp, mountain yam and grated white radish.
    These noodles came with a separate vinaigrette sauce and it tasted really refreshing that I poured all of it.
    The noodles also had these delicious tiny crisp seeds that looked like ultra tiny dried chick peas which I did not know what is was but everything matched so well together.
     
     
     
    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
     
    Assorted skewers: chicken pork, beef and ox tongue with green pepper turnip sauce, turnip, plum and spices.
    I ordered this because the green puree looked interesting, the green puree was basically green peppers and white radish pureed together.
    On the menu it saids turnip but I think they mean white radish.
    Overall the skewers were nice because of the white radish puree.
    ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★
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    To try on my next visit:
    Fresh tomato, sea urchin and salmon roe chilled etanbetsu soba and DIY Japanese tofu curd.
     
     
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    Price: $1XX
    English menu: yes, and they have pictures!
    Service: OK
    Yummy factor: I'll be back
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    蕎麥湯更勝更科蕎麥麵.
    Average soba. Interesting soba soup.
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    ~ Safe Soba ~

    For me, soba is always the safest and usually the best dish - in an airplane tongue - whenever I'm flying to and from Japan. My Japanese father-in-law invariably take me to specialist soba shops in Japan every time I visit. Although I'm not a super fan of soba, I appreciate the cold and crisp texture of soba, especially taken with some aromatic shoyu, mixed with ginger, spring onions and fresh shredded turnip (sometimes with a quail egg too!) It's especially refreshing in the warm weather. smile

    So during the lunchtime on a particularity hot day, I felt like cold tray of soba to cool down. I thus decided to give this newly opened soba specialist shop a try.


    ~ Shopfront ~
    門面靚,樓底高,位寬敞舒適.
    門面靚,樓底高,位寬敞舒適.
     
    The shop was pretty eye-catching from the outside with a cool modern decor and a very high ceiling. They seemed to have quite a lot of tables for four and about 10 counter seats. The tables were reasonably spaced apart. The counter-seats were quite comfortable. So decor and environment-wise it's good. It seemed to be quite popular no doubt due to its location.

    It was pretty packed at this shop and I had to wait for about 5 minutes to get a counter seat. Interestingly , there was no queue at "Tongkichi"! shocked I was quite tempted to go there instead, but once again, I ignored my gut feeling. Bad idea.

    The waitress at the door was allocating tickets and tables on the one hand but was also bringing customers to their tables. She looked a bit nervous and overwhelmed with work. Anyway, I got my seat at the counter and started looking at the menu, which had a lot of photographs and in Japanese, Chinese and English. smile

    ~ Tempura set with Sarashina Soba ~

    The menu contained a comprehensive introduction to their soba. In simple terms, the general idea is that the more soba powder (buckwheat powder) you mix into the noodle, the stronger the soba taste and the harder the texture of the noodle. That's essentially the whole idea. Usually the soba noodle we eat are seldom 100% soba but usually diluted by some wheat powder. As far as I know, I believe the most commonly available one is 70% soba noodle (七割) mixed with 30% wheat. chopstick The more buckwheat, the higher the price. (However, that doesn't necessarily mean better taste - the taste becomes more "rough" and "grainy" in my opinion.)

    They provide quite a number of rather inflexible set meals. A la carte tempura is not available when I ordered. I wanted to order a tempura scallop to compare with other Japanese cutlet shops. This was very surprisingly, considering that Tonkichi, part of the same restaurant group, was just physically next to this shop.

    Anyway I ordered the "Tempura Set". I was told that the default soba type was "更科 (さらしな) - Sarashina" soba. It's soba noodle made with refined buckwheat. Basically it's less rough as the non-refined version and should a bit softer than other soba types.

    After a rather long wait, qhich was about 15-20 minutes, my tempura soba set arrived:
    賣相可以.
    賣相可以.
     
    It looked alright and the size was decent.

    ~ Geography ~

    According to what I've read from a book on Japanese eating manners published by NHK. Soba are served either in a "Mountain Style" or a "Flat Style" (can't remember the Japanese name exactly, so maybe I"ll call it plateau. )

    chopstickThe "Mountain Style" refers to soba piled up like spaghetti, like a mountain.

    chopstickThe "Plateau Style" is like the one shown in the photograph above. It's spread out on the bamboo container.

    If you are having "Mountain Style", remember to start from the TOP and slowly work your way down the whole plate. That's the proper way and the easiest way to handle the plate of soba.

    If you are having "Plateau Style", remember to start from the corner nearest to your chopsticks - the lower right hand corner (if you're right handed. I don't think they had left-handers in mind when they designed these things tongue). From right to left. This is how the soba was spread by the chef , assuming it's properly done. If you follow the flow of the spread, you won't make a mess out of it and could eat the soba smoothly. chopstick

    But before I start my meal, I couldn't help but notice this:

    ~ Fork the melon (before) ~
    餐前開始氧化的哈蜜瓜.
    餐前開始氧化的哈蜜瓜.
     
    Is that a piece of melon between the cup of tea and the pot of soba sauce?! It's been quite a while to see fruits served like this. shocked

    Although some research suggested that it's better for your health to have fruits before your meal, I assumed that this was for the end of the meal. If it's for the end of the meal, then it's a very bad idea to serve the melon now. It'll just start oxidizing. sad

    At this point, I was getting progressively suspicious about the quality of the restaurant.......!(◎_◎;)

    chopstick

    I had a taste of the soba......
    更科:味道較淡,唔夠凍.
    更科:味道較淡,唔夠凍.
     
    Perhaps because it was made of refined buckwheat, the taste was quite light, even after I've dipped it into the soba sauce.

    The soba sauce is the key component in a cold soba set. It is traditionally made of dashi, shoyu, scallions, shredded ginger and some mirin as well. The sauce here was light. The shoyu taste was quite thin and wasn't aromatic. The taste dissipates rather quickly in your mouth. The ginger and spring onions weren't too fresh. Those taste a bit bland too.

    I think to be a true specialist, they either need to have a one size fits all soba sauce, which should be strong, or to have different soba sauce to match with the different soba provided - in any event, it still has to be strong for this light taste soba. That's just me being the armchair general. chopstick

    The "cold soba" was definitely not cold enough and thus not "al dente" or crisp. Lukewarm soba in a light soba sauce is quite off-putting and hard to finish. This is definitely something the restaurant could and must improve. chopstick

    Luckily, the shredded nori (seaweed) on top of the soba were quite high quality. It had a very nice refreshing "sea" taste and the taste lingers. this helped the soba significantly.smile

    chopstick The soba provided by "Ootoya" (TST) is way better than the soba provided here. chopstick

    ~ Tempura ~

    The tempura was a disappointment. The shrimps were definitely frozen stuff and barely had any shrimp taste. The tempura batter on the shrimp were more hard and crunchy rather than light and crisp. Below average quality.

    The batter on the other vegetables were the same and were a bit oily. The taste of the enoki (Chinese mushroom), pumpkin and the green pepper were fine but the batter was very oily. Not recommended. sad

    I much prefer the tempura at "New Kotobuki", "En", "Senzuru" and "Ryo Tei". On the other hand, I think those at "Ten Yoshi" are nice but overpriced. Those at "Inagiku" are fine but grossly overpriced.

    Looks like ordering Tonkatsu (cutlets) is a much safer bet. !(◎_◎;)

    ~ Soba Soup ~

    I finished my soba set (other than the melon) and the polite waitress approached and asked whether I'd like to have my soba soup. I said yes and I thought it should be served pretty soon after I placed my order. However, contrary to my expectations, it took ages to arrive - almost 6-8 minutes for a pot of pre-boiled water. mad

    Luckily, it was good:
    清新有益的蕎麥湯.
    清新有益的蕎麥湯.
     
    In a specialist soba shop, you are usually provided with the soup used to boil the soba. Essential it doesn't taste much but it's believed to be good for your health. I believe it's a glorified way to prevent wasting food. You're supposed to pour the soba soup into the soba sauce and drink the broth together with noodle bits which you might find inside.

    The soup had a bit of shoyu taste and some pomelo skin were added to it. I didn't mind the added citrus taste as it's quite refreshing.

    As far as I'm aware, Kurotaki is the only shop which provide soba soup. Turning them into the "soba soup specialist" by default.

    ~ The eternal question: What are managers for? ~

    Talking about the service, I find the waiters and waitresses a bit green but polite. I could see that the front line staff were doing their best. However, everyone seemed to be doing half of everything at the same time. They seemed nervous and disorganized. I think the restaurant could run much more efficiently than what they are doing now. For example, it took 15-20 minutes before my soba set arrived; the soba soup took another 6-8 minutes. The whole meal took almost an hour. This is way too slow for a soba shop. bowl

    Professional soba shops inside Shinkansen Stations in Japan serve their soba, with tempura, in less than 10 minutes. The soba soup, if available, is served almost instantly the moment you finish your meal (to be fair, usually self-service). Even the fine dining soba specialist shops in Japan won't need more than 15 minutes for their soba (even hot soba in soup) and again, the soba soup will arrive almost instantly when you place your order. That's what I call a soba "specialist". chopstick

    The staff were trying their best. On the other hand, from what I could see, the manager(s) weren't doing much.

    The most constructive observation I could give is that the manager need to be much more proactive in coordinating the staff, where they stand, who does what, and at what stage. They should also be more hands on and help out in take orders, instead of just hanging around the entrance and behind the cashier. I believe this could greatly enhance the efficiency of the place. After all, managers are there to manage things, right?

    What they should NOT do to in an attempt to enhance efficiency is to serve the melon right at the beginning. It just becomes warm and oxidized. The fork wasn't those which had a knife edge (like you see in many cake shops) and couldn't cut up the melon. It was next to useless. I used my hands instead.
    差的叉=冇叉用
    差的叉=冇叉用
     
    Conclusion:

    - Nice decor;
    - Comfortable seats;
    - Service: Polite but green;
    - Soba: Not cold and crisp enough;
    - Soba sauce: Too light;
    - Soba soup: Nice citrus taste. Novelty value (only shop in Hong Kong that does it at the time of writing);
    - Pricey: At HK$151, this was rather expensive for the quality. I could almost have a soba sets at Ootoya at half the price but double the quality.

    I'm still giving this shop OK on my scale because it's the only shop willing to specialize in soba (& soba soup tongue)

    Hopefully they'll improve in the near future.

    I won't write them off just yet.

    chopstick

    總評:

    服務:態度良好但慢.經理最好落力一點.
    環境:門面靚,樓底高,位寬敞舒適.

    更科蕎麥:味道較清淡,唔夠凍.
    蕎麥沾汁:淡.蔥,姜不夠新鮮.氧化了,冇味.
    天婦羅:太油.雪藏蝦,冇蝦味.不推介.〔新大壽,宴,千鶴,亮亭...等好得多〕提議叫吉列應較安全.
    哈蜜瓜:太早拿來.餐前已開始氧化.叉沒有刀鋒,哈蜜瓜又沒有切開,叉完全沒有用.
    蕎麥湯:有柚子及醬油鮮味,清新有益.有特色 - 暫時是香港唯一蕎麥專門店.tongue

    但蕎麥麵還是〔大戶屋〕好食及抵食.

    chopstick 從NHK出的日本飲食禮儀書內讀到以下:chopstick

    - 像意粉一樣像”山形”般奉上的蕎麥麵應從上(頂點)至下吃.
    - 平鋪(如上)的蕎麥麵應從右下角開始吃,由右至左.

    順著蕎麥麵鋪出來的放向來吃較容易夾起及整齊.或可參考.

    lol

    chopstick

    Supplementary Information:
    "Ajikichi Ramen Shop" inside "the ONE" also appears to be of the same group as Tonkichi.
     
    Table Wait Time: 2 minute(s)


    Date of Visit: May 30, 2012 

    Spending per head: Approximately HKD151

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    This restaurant was a big disappointment. huffyhuffyhuffy

    Prawn Salad - Looks nothing like the menu. When it came out, it was a small shrimp salad while the menu showed nice large prawns!

    Softshell Crab Roll - Was decent tasting but very very oily!

    Prawn Roll - huge chunks of rice. seemed liked I was eating a rice ball. Not very tasty at all

    Soba - The selection of soba was good but unfortunately many were sold out by 6pm. The taste was good for the one we ordered but a bit overpriced. $98 for soba only!

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    The service was also poor. The chopsticks and plate we had were dirty when we arrived. The bell for the ticket number is extremely loud and annoying. Ridiculous and uncomfortable dining experience. Will not go back.
     
    Table Wait Time: 10 minute(s)


    Date of Visit: May 14, 2012 

    Spending per head: Approximately HKD225(Dinner)

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    The biggest disappointment! We were just saying how the family diner Ootoya 大戸屋 already made a decent Soba, but the dipping broth here was surprisingly devoid of much taste especially a balanced bonito broth! It was actually worst than the store bought variety.
     
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